New Trad Archer Arrow/Broadhead Combination Question

I am new to archery, having purchased a 45# Bear Grizzly. I live in Iowa and after years of chasing whitetails during our black powder season want to hunt the bow season.

I thought I had a pretty good set up, until I read David Petersen’s “Going Trad” which led me to you and the Ashby studies. Dr. Ashby’s work makes perfect sense to me and I clearly need to increase the weight of my arrow and broadhead. I wish I would have read this book months ago instead of just finishing it.

Can you recommend a good arrow/broadhead combination for me? With a 45# bow is it a reasonable expectation to shoot an arrow/broadhead combination of 650 grains?

Any advice or suggestions you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely, Scott W . La Porte City IA

Scott welcome to the world of traditional archery.

Yes 650 grains is a reasonable weight for a 45 lb bow. Actually it would be what I would reccommend.

We have found that the “Max Red carbon express “arrow is a good choice as it allow for wide range of bow weights and front end weight,

I would suspect the 250 would be the correct spine for that bow. It would be best to acquire a 250 and 350 spine and experiment. The beauty of this arrow is you can purchase it from us but it is a popular arrow and can be found at your local archery shop.The 250 weighs less than 9 grain per inch. You have not said what your draw length is but for this purpose let say it is 28 inch.,


(28 inch draw would be a 30 inch arrow) x ( 9 grains /inch)  =   270 grains

TuffHead 225 broad head                                                       =   225

Broadhead adaptor        125 grn                                              =   125

arrow footing    # 2                                                                  =     25

total                                                                                         645 grains

If you follow this route I would suggest to purchase a field point kit and a adaptor kit in order to experiment with different front weight. Follow the tuning suggestions on our web site and you will come up with a good flying arrow.



Thank you for getting back to me. I’m glad to hear that I can increase the weight of my arrow and broad head with my bow.

Please forgive my inexperience, but I have a couple of more questions.

With regard to the Max Red Carbon Express arrows is it correct to say I would need to glue the adaptors into the arrows and have someone fletch the arrows for me? Do the arrows already have nocks? And, the footings would go on before the adaptors and go over the shaft of the arrow, right? Then, I would glue the broad head on to the adaptor? Is this hard to do or to do straight? Are the field points of same weight as the broad head screwed on to the adaptor or glued on?

Sorry for all the questions, I’m brand spanking new to this and want to do the right thing – both for me and the deer.


Scott ,

Yes you will have to purchase inserts separately from your arrow shaft .. I actually failed to account for this when discussing arrow weight.

Inserts can be bought in several weights we offer 50 grain and 100 grain . There  are lighter ones made of aluminum we do not offer them due to their lack of strength.

Depending on which you decide on you will be adding additional weight to the front of the arrow. This is all a numbers game. Maybe you will have to drop down to a 75 grain adaptor instead of the 125 in the example. Thus the reason for a test kit .You won’t know what total weight you can tolerate up front until you experiment.

At first you will not need to worry about feathers. When testing you will be using a bear shaft,  Later depending on the what set up you decide on you can purchase arrows from most archery shop with feathers installed.( we do not offer that service.) or you can get in to doing your own.

Read the “tunning the FOC aerrow” on our site . To get started you can purchase items separately or purchase a FOC kit as offered on our web site which will provide all items needed to experiment including two 100 grain inserts and two 50 grain inserts . Don’t worry about footings at this point they are a refinement to the arrow . While they do add strength to the arrow tip we also use them as a weight adjustment for the total arrow weight.

Good Luck and have fun.


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